Healing Ointments and Doctor in Jesus' Tomb?
The Lamentation by Ambrosius Benson 16th century. This work is on display at the Legion of Honor Museum in San Francisco. These are tidied up notes from a discussion group with guest input.
Look to your left, Joseph of Arimathia, possible king or agent of a high king, in history he was a minister of mines for the Roman government, in a dynastic senatorial post. It gets way more interesting... See window in the tomb, interestingly not masonic and not a tomb. The broken tree trunk is the lost of the goddess, and lost history of the real Jesus, one of his symbols is a tree. When we zoom out it becomes something else, a striding Templar knight, a code in in its self to say we've been fed a lot of lies about them.
The three pillars, three children of Jesus and Mary Magdalene. One pillar in foreground, the one that has survived that is now in the royal seat and waiting. The arch in the bridge symbolized the same person. The ladder represents the sacred DNA. The sarcophagus is full of aloes, honey, pain relievers and healing herbs. A three day soak in that stuff with some poppy and acacia teas would have prevented shock and infection and sped up the healing process. The person stirring the mixture in the tomb is probably Nicodemus, he is Joseph's personal doctor, which means everybody is very high ranked and very wealthy, ala billionaire style.
Cort Lindahl (Archeologist and author) This painting is interesting to me. I think the imagery invokes the Temple Mount. The ladder in the background makes me think of Jacob's ladder. Have read that according to some the sepulcher of Christ was actually on the Temple Mount.
There's some very ancient stuff going on there. I'm finding in these paintings most everything is a code for something. Including the way shadows and light fall across an object or person or part of.
Chris Foster (Researcher) The ladder in the background I would consider as Jacobs'.
I'm wondering what are the multiple allegorical meanings for Jacob's ladder. Are the meanings the same in heraldry? In general I found the meanings or contexts of symbols can change depending on the version of the background story. For instance, a room without a window could be Masonic, a room with a window is not a Masonic lodge, not a ceremony.
Chris Foster (Researcher) The ladder in the background I would consider as Jacobs'.
I'm wondering what are the multiple allegorical meanings for Jacob's ladder. Are the meanings the same in heraldry? In general I found the meanings or contexts of symbols can change depending on the version of the background story. For instance, a room without a window could be Masonic, a room with a window is not a Masonic lodge, not a ceremony.
One of the stories is that Jesus went through a three day Egyptian ceremony of death and rebirth. This painting questions that. But another painting in the same collection has Jesus stepping out of the box and killing soldiers, yes very confusing. I see the plant aloe and I know it as a very common healing plant in the western USA, I grow a little at home. Eastern healers are very good, their craft has been established for more than 5,000 years, still used today, some practiced by Western doctors. Jacob's ladder, I need to further explore, the ladder symbology I currently have decodings of is about DNA.
Due to the world politics at the deeper end of this research, even in the paintings, I've been trying to keep things light. Often I'm not sure what to say. What I can say is that I am really digging Christian mysticism at the moment. The secret apocrypha books are fab, I can actually understand them. I'm learning a lot more about the syncretizing of saints and gods and monarchy, and how that is still practiced today, ala Diana and the Romanovs. The pre flood history and advanced technology are also fascinating tied into other cultures around the world.
Early spread of Christianity first 2 centuries AD, the St James Way pilgrimage etc (The Way, movie with Martin Sheen). Where did they end up? all over the world, (math study is on the Sangraal Truth group by Charly). Or what was the ethnicity of their DNA? Up for debate. Who was really protecting them? Who most wouldn't expect? Breakdown of the symbology for a particular story or person or secret society? each are different. This seems totally Parcival, but I kind of need a bit more information or specifics. I'm in San Francisco, USA, some even say they came here, or at least in part.
Due to the world politics at the deeper end of this research, even in the paintings, I've been trying to keep things light. Often I'm not sure what to say. What I can say is that I am really digging Christian mysticism at the moment. The secret apocrypha books are fab, I can actually understand them. I'm learning a lot more about the syncretizing of saints and gods and monarchy, and how that is still practiced today, ala Diana and the Romanovs. The pre flood history and advanced technology are also fascinating tied into other cultures around the world.
Early spread of Christianity first 2 centuries AD, the St James Way pilgrimage etc (The Way, movie with Martin Sheen). Where did they end up? all over the world, (math study is on the Sangraal Truth group by Charly). Or what was the ethnicity of their DNA? Up for debate. Who was really protecting them? Who most wouldn't expect? Breakdown of the symbology for a particular story or person or secret society? each are different. This seems totally Parcival, but I kind of need a bit more information or specifics. I'm in San Francisco, USA, some even say they came here, or at least in part.
The Cathars were an early part of my research. We have somewhat advanced on geomancy and working on our first app for that, see Cort Lindahl's work on youtube. I have been editing a transcript of what can be described as a Catholic, Black Nobility, version of the Grail story, from 2 year discussion with one of the group. Also an art history of the coded art and collection here in San Francisco, in collaboration with a world class art museum. I've collected initiation rites of secret societies, including Essen Masons, Scottish Rite etc. We've also gathered a network of other groups and radio hosts and expert researchers. It is all quite advanced, lots of PHD's, such as Genesis Quest, but also specialized and at university level, hence my asking to be specific.
Chris Foster There are no secrets within Masonry, just a few pointers regarding it's evolution. If you listen to the UGLE they quote 1717 as being the date that Freemasonry started.
There are two sides to Masons, dark and light, and several different religions these days. Some elements of their initiation rites are over 2,000 years old, and can tell one almost everything one need's to know about Masonry relating to Grail research (reading it symbolically) It's the Mason's Goddess symbology that interests me the most. Rebuilding the walls of the Goddess. Also they use ladder symbology... interestingly enough.
In every organization there is dark and light, red and white, conservative and libertarian or republican or monarchist. From my findings I believe that Mason's were originally artisan guilds. Guilds were how the wealthy screened quality and trustworthy craftsmen for high profile jobs, such as royal commissions. This is how they all have similar coded symbology and minimum standard of technical skills. Often people confuse Templars and Druids with Masons, but I think that is another bait and switch. Templars were originally French, where as Guilds were/are and are all over the world, even in the East. Druids in the USA are also a social philanthropic fraternity.
Chris Foster There are no secrets within Masonry, just a few pointers regarding it's evolution. If you listen to the UGLE they quote 1717 as being the date that Freemasonry started.
There are two sides to Masons, dark and light, and several different religions these days. Some elements of their initiation rites are over 2,000 years old, and can tell one almost everything one need's to know about Masonry relating to Grail research (reading it symbolically) It's the Mason's Goddess symbology that interests me the most. Rebuilding the walls of the Goddess. Also they use ladder symbology... interestingly enough.
In every organization there is dark and light, red and white, conservative and libertarian or republican or monarchist. From my findings I believe that Mason's were originally artisan guilds. Guilds were how the wealthy screened quality and trustworthy craftsmen for high profile jobs, such as royal commissions. This is how they all have similar coded symbology and minimum standard of technical skills. Often people confuse Templars and Druids with Masons, but I think that is another bait and switch. Templars were originally French, where as Guilds were/are and are all over the world, even in the East. Druids in the USA are also a social philanthropic fraternity.
Masons today are a social philanthropic organization, not so much attached to having real artisan skills. Though Masons I’ve met all have some kind of real skill, including sound engineering, dentistry, and macadamia farming. Masons accept women today, and so did some lodges in the 1700's, and 1800's in the USA. The secret codes and handshakes and windowless rooms were introduced during persecution times, keeping the skills secret is older. Secrecy is membership requirement like a blood oath.
It was for every member's protection, especially as some members or their clients were highly ranked royals or industry moguls who kept civilization supplied and running. Other forms of secrecy were to protect the skills and knowledge and their communication codes, such as the paintings. Older cities of the USA are often laid out using Mason like symbology. I say Mason-like, as there are a lot of Mason like orders that are not Mason, it gets confusing at times. For example the painting in this thread with Mary Magdalene and the wedding ring, was commissioned for a Carpenter's guild in Brussels.
Joseph of Arimathea's nickname was The Carpenter, because he commissioned wooden buildings, as opposed to stone. Wood is the material of the Goddess, what Christian iconography, statues, are made of. The most moving part in the initiation rites for me, the mission.. rebuilding the walls of the Goddess, we are here to protect this planet, Mother Earth. Mason rites are a form of shamanism if done with meditation. I know the acacia, the DMT side of it, now that could be some interesting concepts. Something else, Mason degrees are sometimes given according to skill level. Being able to understand all this stuff might be why I was given a full set of initiation rites, for preservation, without an oath of secrecy. Sometimes in paintings of inside lodges there are high Masons who look a bit young for the position, for example.
Joseph of Arimathea' right side his robe draped to look like a woman holding a baby. But when I enlarged it and fiddled with the exposure it looks more like a woman with a 10 year old holding a sword, or the sword is being held in front of them, as if to keep them in the shadows maybe?
Joseph of Arimathea' right side his robe draped to look like a woman holding a baby. But when I enlarged it and fiddled with the exposure it looks more like a woman with a 10 year old holding a sword, or the sword is being held in front of them, as if to keep them in the shadows maybe?
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